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Post by steve on Jul 18, 2010 18:43:02 GMT -5
i want to have a war between the two teams to see who is the last one standing.no entities allowed because that makes it to easy.{spectre wipes everyone out and its over}it just takes the fun out of it.don't base your decision on popularity but by powers and explain why you think so.this is to see who has the strongest team,marvel or dc.like i said past and present members of both teams in a battle royal.
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Post by steve on Jul 18, 2010 19:11:36 GMT -5
I pick marvel and heres why.sentry,thor,and hulk are two much to overcome.sentry has stood toe to toe with galactus,broke terraxs axe{could slice planets in half}he can teleport,move at the speed of light,battled an enraged wwhulk to a stand still and has no known weaknesses.hulk has lifted a mountain weighing 150 billion tons,taken several hits from drax the destroyer when he had the infinity gem{infinite strength and the hullk just shook it off}has a healing factor that gets better the angrier he gets and no real limit to his strength.we all know about thor and its highly debateable who wins in a fight between him and superman but i give that match to thor based on he's been in battles for thousands if not milions of years,before superman was even born.he has his magic hammer that superman is weak to,and is about the same strength and speed as supes.you also have hercules{same strength as thor}wonderman,wolverine,spiderman,ronin,iron man captain america,dr.strange,ares,ms marvel,vision,quicksilver, just to name a few.on the dc side you have superman,batman,flash,green lantern,martian manhunter,captain marvel,and wonder woman,flash,again just naming a few.your real power houses on the dc side is superman,captain marvel,martian themanhunter,and wonderwoman.sorry but based on powers dc loses
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Post by wolverinefan on Jul 21, 2010 14:07:59 GMT -5
Steve I can your a huge Marvel fan and to be honest that is where my loyalties lie but there in no way DC would ever allow JLA to fall. Just look at the Marvel vs DC crossover were Superman ko's the Hulk. Then the JLA/Avengers crossover in which Superman not only knocks out Thor but lifts his hammer while doing so. During the JLA/Avengers crossover the DC heroes kept basically dissing the Marvel heroes by basically saying although this dimensions (marvel) heroes weren't nearly as powerful as they were they fought with courage and honor. That even tells you the disparity between the two universes. After reading the JLA/Avengers I have given up hope for Marvel ever coming out on top in one of these conflicts and I'm sorry to every Superman fan on this board but they make this guy into GOD...He is untouchable. Even watching DC's own movies as in Batman/Superman public enemies Superman gets into a fight with Captain Marvel (Shazam) who literally says to Superman that "you has always been weak against magic..and I'm ALL about magic." Yet Superman once more refuses to go down. So I Dont care if its Sentry with Thor and the Hulk with him as well Superman will not be beaten by a Marvel character. That's all there is to it. I don't agree with it but..Read the books and see for yourself.
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Post by steve on Jul 21, 2010 14:42:49 GMT -5
alright i hear your point but crossovers is more about popularity and polotics than who would actually win.i seen a commic where batman dove through a car that hulk had thrown and hit hulk 3 times in the gut to knock the wind out of him.now lets think about that 4 a moment.the hulk{who probably threw that car at around 100mph}first misses batman{who has upper limit speed and reflexes fo a normal human}with the car then gets the wind knocked out of him{hulk has taken shots from tanks,missles,thor,and many other things that would kill just about anyone}by batman{who has upper limit human strength}even if you are an acrobat with amazing reflexes and you have the speed of the fastest olympic sprinter in the world.i don't see u or any other regular human dodging a car thats being thrown at you at least 100mph or if you were a heavy weight boxer your still not gonna knock the wind out of the hulk.batman doesn't have any super powers but yet did all of this.crossovers are politics and popularity contests.not about who would actually win.you have to base it on powers and not popularity and in this case sentry,thor and maybe the hulk could all take supes out in a 1 on 1.sorry but i have to disagree with you
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Post by wolverinefan on Oct 12, 2010 15:03:40 GMT -5
OMG Steve I totally understand you here bro. I own that d**n crossover..When Batman "kicked" the air out of Hulk I almost ripped the book in half I was so mad. He should have hurt his foot because kicking the Hulk should have been like kicking a brick wall. But We have to use the comics as a reference. If these guys havent fought then its anyone's opinion but if they have we have something to go by anyway. Not saying its a standard but Im telling you this and mark it down..Superman will NEVER lose to a Marvel character. he's toppled Hulk and now Thor..What's next Galactus?? Go to the Superhero or DC database online..Superman's strength is into the megaton range, no one in Marvel is even close. OH I can hear this now..I also own the issue of Secret Wars were Hulk is "holding up 150 billion tons" but read the book instead of the cover. Iron man and several others blasted a crater and Hulk basically kept the weight of the mountain from crushing the hole until they escaped. An amazing feat but not like he is lifting it and throwing it or anything. Believe it or not I am a MARVEL fan but have come to the sad realization that Superman is DC's version of GOD!!!
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Post by steveduffey on Apr 24, 2011 15:45:36 GMT -5
the hulk would steal the very radiation that gives supes his strength.radiation caused by nuclear fusion is called gamma radiation and its what the sun produces.supes absorbs this but at a slow rate.{it took months of comic time for supes to get to half strength after his fight with doomsday and thats with a suit designed to absorb sunlight.}hulk absorbs radiation almost instantly and just has to be near the source.hulk wins
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Post by steve on Apr 8, 2012 13:54:40 GMT -5
man me and you cant seem to agree on anything wolverine fan.yes thor got knocked out in that one but so did supes.hercules had him in a bear hug from behind and vision knocked him out.If them 2 can knock out supes what would happen with sentry,hulk,dr strange,red hulk,ares,nova and quasar.if you look back at that superman was barely standing after his fight with thor.Once again we agree to disagree but i enjoy having these debates with you.it seems i found someone who loves comics like i do and enjoys talking about them.keep doing what you do bub
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Post by wolverinefan on Jun 23, 2012 3:01:18 GMT -5
Look at that again bro..he got put down by 5..Hercules...She Hulk...IRon Man...Vision...Wonderman..I agree and dont give up the marvel fight bro...I grew up with X-men, Hulk, Thor, and Spider Man.
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Post by steve on Jun 24, 2012 9:23:36 GMT -5
hasn't hulk took everyone you just mentioned out by himself????so superman did the same thing,good for him,didn't say it wouldn't be a good fight just that the avengers would take it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Americamarvel.wikia.com/Captain_America_(Steven_Rogers)yep they both just said captain america can bench press 1200 pounds.guess cap is stronger than the bat.man we just can't seem to agree and i think your stubborn like me.lol |
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Post by wolverinefan on Jun 25, 2012 2:18:03 GMT -5
Steve I saw batman take down the hulk so you think Cap has a prayer?? If hulk is this world beater then how can the weakest DC hero take him out?? Im telling you its not a contest..WE are better sticking with DC vs DC and Marvel vs Marvel..
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Post by steve on Jun 25, 2012 9:52:09 GMT -5
their you go with the crossovers again.batman beats the hulk and gets his back broke by bane.bet you would bet on a ufc fighter in a cage match with a gorilla wouldn't you.
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Post by wolverinefan on Jun 26, 2012 0:26:04 GMT -5
No brains gorilla maybe
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Post by wolverinefan on Jun 26, 2012 0:28:41 GMT -5
You can hypothetically debate Steve I GOT proof
..Call em tainted, call em fan based, but when it says it in the book itself that the dc heroes are more powerful then where is your argument??? Do you think marvel would allow them to say that if it wasnt based in fact??? Marvel is proud of their heroes as well but they MAKE their heroes more down to earth on purpose as I stated before.
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Post by steve on Jun 26, 2012 9:15:55 GMT -5
marvel.wikia.com/Franklin_Richards_(Earth-616)franklin richards is as if not more powerful then a celestial.read it.he can change superman into a flower and step on him.he could recreate the entire dc universe in his back pocket.how bout that for proof. marvel.wikia.com/Jean_Grey_(Earth-616)how bout jean grey as the pheonix,go ahead and tell me pheonix couldn't do anything to dc. marvel.wikia.com/Wanda_Maximoff_(Earth-616)their,3 reality warpers in marvel that are extremely powerful.are you really going to tell me superman and most of dc wouldn't be devastated against them.they warp reality,how can the justice league counter this i wonder.this is like a game of chess with each one trying to out do the other.i think its gonna end an a stalemate though
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