list of marvel characters close to or greater than

[steve]

list of marvel characters close to,equal to,or greater than superman
tyrant
thanos
silver surfer
morg
terrax
captain marvel
champion
sentry
gladiator
drax the destroyer
world war hulk{when superman can break a planet or collapse a continent by stomping his foot then tell me supes would win}
red hulk{knocked out watcher}
skaar
onslaught
adam warlock
quasar{has stole cosmic energy from thanos,watcher,and pheonix}
beta ray bill
magus
maelstrom

[steve]

i know their are a lot of dc fans that think that superman is unstopable.that isn't the case.check out youtube supermans limits.also outside of justice league,dc doesn't have nearly the numbers or power hitters marvel has.google marvel vs dc and look for naruto page about marvel vs dc.based on powers,dc is losing in the debate.2 wolverinefan,you keep looking at the crossover and claiming dc takes it.thats about polotics and not powers.did you know in one crossover hulk knocked supes almost to mars.didn't read that one did you??thor lost to supes but i've only seen 1 comic where thor beat hulk without help and in that one hulk just landed and started beating up vampires.check out world breaker hulk.next all the heralds of galactus based on powers could beat the justice league by themselves.look at the powers before telling me know way.super volcanos,mega earthquakes and tsunamis,black holes,turning the vary air on earth into fire.this is some of their powers.they all can travel at light speed,and have varying degrees of the power cosmic.no my friend,pre-crisis superman isn't like silver age superman and as i've already pointed out.dc is out gunned and out numbered.throw in juggernaut,magneto,exodus,and hundreds of mutants and marvel takes dc to town in the powers department and in numbers.

[wolverinefan]

You keep referring to youtube bro..GO to the comic book sites my friend

[wolverinefan]

Combine them all and DC still wins..U arent thinking just superman..How about Dr Fate Wonder Woman for that matter Green Lantern can blow up planets with their rings and the are THOUSANDS of them..Here i am a marvel fan constantly defending DC but its because you fail to see the big picture here steve..There is NO contest here. DC is a more powerful universe. Just found out that there was a cross over with Galactus and Darkseid. Darkseid is on par with the world eater and Superman takes down Darkseid...

[steve]

their is so many things wrong with what you just said,well maybe not wrong but we can't see eye to eye.i already know about that crossover.its been out now for a while.lets start with galactus and darkseid being on the same level.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlfXW9rvSEM&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active
sorry had to use another you tube video but it illustrates my point.galactus is hungry and weakened and he still beat darkseids army,his automans,and him and it really wasn't much of a match.at what point does a lantern gain the power to destoy a planet??
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Lantern
nope,has never happened.oh,and i've been going to the comic sites and youtube to prove my point.you must not have read a lot of the posts i've put up.their from the comic sites.the green lantern i had to use wikipedia because i couldn't find anything to show lanterns powers on the mini site at dc.as far as thousands of lanterns i wasnt going to use this but ok.each lantern covers a galaxy right,oh so does a watcher...so for every lantern theirs a watcher and thats not counting nova corps,celestials,the stranger,eternity,infinity,zom,mephisto,beyonder,pheonix and a whole lot more so lets not get into the thousands of lanterns because marvel takes it in entity department to.also they are weak against the color yellow.c'mon man,really.
so you have
gladiator
quasar
adam warlock
silver surfer
magus
thanos
and the list goes on,tyrant and galactus fight destroyed galaxies,tyrant had gladiator,silver surfer,thanos{who most comic fans agree is on par with darkseid},beta rey bill,and black jack all captured and was draining their powers.tyrant lost to galactus{and as i said destroyed galaxies in the process}and yet you say darkseid is equal to galactus and as a result of that,you have superman being better than galactus.are you for real.no a weakened and ghungry galactus went and beat the crap out of darkseid and his army,did you see the part where orion was helping his dad up after getting blasted??? help me out here because aside from the justice league,darkseid,mongul and doomsday im having trouble finding any major threat to marvel. the reason i keep bringing these names up is if gladiator is close to superman,and surfer is close to superman,and warlock,and magus,and black heart,and ymir the frost giant,and captain universe,and x-man,and beta ray bill,etc,etc then even with wonderwoman and fate and captain atom,the flash,they are out numbered and out matched.if your counting on lanterns then on marvels side we use watchers and hundreds of other entities.people like the in-betweener,lord chaos,zom,mephisto{you can use nerron to counter this if you want but zom is equal to eternity so nerron would lose their.}odin,chton,pheonix and the list goes on and on.i see the whole picture.we just think that each side is one sided and its frustrating because we can't seem to get the other to agree.

[wolverinefan]

That was a flaw in the rings and it has since been corrected. Lanterns no longer have yellow weakness.

[wolverinefan]

Its hard for me to make an arguement for DC cause I know far more about Marvel then DC...Another couple of heavy hitters you forgot on your Marvel list was ONSLAUGHT who was a combination of Professor X, Magneto, and Flanklin Richards...He was so powerful he one punched Juggernaut from Canada to New York. It also took a bannerless hulk to break open his armor. Not to mention the Celestials..Who were so powerful they melted The Destroyer Armor that was imbued with Odin and every other Asgardian besides Thor..As awesome as Marvel Universe appears to be Dc comes on top every time they fight however

[steve]

yes and you have my respect for putting up the debate that you have,as i said their are dc fans that have proven easier to persuade then you have.as far as the crossovers are concerned,i have no idea why marvel always agrees to the outcomes.i have some ideas but thats all they are.i think it has to do with dc would never do it unless they come out on top and it could be something as simple as dc takes the matches and marvel takes the profit from the comics themselves.i don't know but based on powers marvel takes it.i can count the number of entities in dc on both hands and marvel has far more.they also have far more reality warpers{the most powerful power in comics to have}but the profit thing is pure speculation.