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Post by steve on Jun 10, 2012 13:09:14 GMT -5
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Post by steve on Jun 10, 2012 13:58:25 GMT -5
dc has
darkseid
mongul
superman
doomsday
wonderwoman
supergirl
martian manhunter
lobo
captain atom
captain marvel
black adam
soloman grundy
that is all the real power houses dc has.at least all i can think of.
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Post by steve on Jun 10, 2012 14:15:19 GMT -5
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Post by steve on Jun 10, 2012 16:22:28 GMT -5
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Post by steve on Jun 10, 2012 16:47:28 GMT -5
so let me sum all this up.superman needs help to move a planet and the current superman is far weaker than silver age superman.gladiator doesn't need help moving a planet and has the same base strength as when he was first created.secondly,i want to point out marvels scale. marvel.wikia.com/Power_Gridin marvel anything over 100 tons is a seven on the power grid.this doesn't mean that its all they can lift,just that anything at above 100 tons falls into that category. marvel.wikia.com/Tyrant_(Earth-616)tyrant vs darkseid silver surfer vs superman thanos vs doomsday gladiator vs black adam adam warlock vs lobo magus vs wonderwoman you get the idea |
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Post by steve on Jun 10, 2012 17:08:16 GMT -5
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Post by steve on Jun 11, 2012 16:52:53 GMT -5
convincing you that superman can be beat has become my personal mission.their are dc fans on other sites that have proven a lot easier to convince than you.that being said,im very persistant.have you read about tyrant,agamotto,surter,adam warlock,magus,captain universe,x-man,apocalpse,hope summers,black bolt,and gladiator.have you watched www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJwghWq0VA&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=activeyet??let me know if you still think dc has it in the bag and that superman would beat every marvel character |
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Post by steve on Jun 24, 2012 12:05:35 GMT -5
and the debate rages on
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Post by wolverinefan on Jun 26, 2012 4:14:07 GMT -5
I want to see him fall...I've got respect for Supes..He was the 1st Super hero but Im tired of him besting marvel's mightiest. One time.... just ONE Time I'd love to see him go down.
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Post by steve on Jun 26, 2012 9:59:27 GMT -5
if your waiting on a comic that shows superman falling to a marvel character,you could be waiting forever or at least until disney buys out dc as well.that being said,i've already shown you that the surfer based on powers could just drain superman of his power while staying ethereal.superman couldn't counter this as he gets his power from an energy source and surfer is a master of all forms of energy.also all os superman attacks are either physical or based on heat or cold,both of which would have no effect on the surfer.also what about pheonix or franklin richards.you see base it on powers and dc loses.
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Post by wolverinefan on Jul 1, 2012 9:20:24 GMT -5
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Post by steve on Jul 1, 2012 10:54:24 GMT -5
and yet you{i guy i respect who seems to be fairly intelligent}still can't figure out how supes could counter surfers power.
Solar Battery: Technically, this is the main source of Superman's powers. As a Kryptonian, Superman's cells absorb only yellow solar energy, and this in turn, fuels all of his powers and abilities. Superman's cells also store solar energy as well, allowing him to retain his powers under roofed structures or even at night, although he eventually needs a yellow sun to recharge his powers. Superman can also absorb solar energies of other class stars such as when he absorbed the solar energies of a blue star that increased his abilities to a higher degree and gave him additional abilities.
The Silver Surfer wields the Power Cosmic, granting him superhuman strength, endurance, senses and the ability to absorb and manipulate the universe's ambient energy for a variety of effects.[citation needed] The Surfer can navigate through interstellar space,[citation needed] dimensional barriers,[citation needed] and hyperspace, which he can enter to exceed the speed of light when flying on his board,[59] and has even proven capable of time travel on several occasions, even able to make others time-travel with him.[60]
The Surfer sustains himself by converting matter into energy; does not require food, water, air, or sleep (although he occasionally enters a sleep-like meditation in order to dream); and can survive within nearly any known natural environment, including deep space, hyperspace, and even within black holes[61] and stars.[62] The Surfer can analyze and manipulate matter and energy,[citation needed] and molecularly restructure or animate matter at will such as causing vegetation to grow much quicker,[citation needed] even transmuting elements or creating objects.[citation needed] He can also project energy in various forms for offensive and defensive use, including the erection of force shields,[citation needed] bolts of cosmic force powerful enough to destroy entire planets,[63][64] and create black holes.[citation needed] He can utilize the Power Cosmic to augment his superhuman strength to indeterminate levels.[65] The Surfer can heal living organisms, though he cannot raise the dead,[59] and he has proven capable of revitalizing and evolving organic life on a planet-wide scale.[66] He can alter the size of himself or of other matter,[citation needed] cast illusions,[67] create interdimensional portals and microverses,[67] phase through solid matter, [59] and exercise some level of control over the Astral Plane.[68]
His senses enable him to detect objects and concentrations of energy light years away and to perceive matter and energy in subatomic detail, including life energies of living beings.[69] The Surfer can even see through time, and with concentration he can achieve limited perception of past and future events in his general vicinity.[70] He has demonstrated telepathic ability, including mind-reading on occasion,[71] and has proven to be able to influence human emotion and sensation.[59]
The Surfer's board is composed of a nearly impervious, cosmically powered silvery material that is similar to his own skin. The board is mentally linked to the Surfer and moves in response to his mental commands even when he is not in physical contact with it.[72] The board is nearly indestructible, but on those rare occasions when it has been damaged or destroyed, the Surfer has proven able to repair it, or even recreate it, with little effort.[33] The Surfer can attack opponents remotely by directing the board against them, and the board is capable of absorbing and imprisoning other beings, at least temporarily.[73]
When Galactus exiled the Surfer to Earth, his means of imprisonment was linked to the board. When the Surfer and the Fantastic Four realized this, the Surfer put it to the test by leaving the board planet-side and entering space in the Four's spacecraft. Once he was free of Earth, the Surfer remotely converted the board to energy, recalled it to him, and reformed it in space.[33]
Norrin Radd also possesses some knowledge of the advanced alien technology of the planet Zenn-La.
like i already said,based on powers superman loses and would just be food to the surfer.also i think the surfer is faster than supes.forget that video{based on a cartoon}and look again at your dc data base.to the moon and back in two minutes is not 4.76 light years in back in 10 seconds.{and thats straight from your dc database}
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