wolverinefan i have proof for you

[steve]

when you get back on check out
wwhulk vs doomsday
2 wolverinefan setting the record straight
marvel vs dc all out war
silver surfer vs superman
in those posts i have a youtube video that describes supermans limits
a wikipedia page describing current superman and his power level
lots of youtube videos that show feats that you have to see to believe
lots of bios from marvel database showing powers and level of powers.
im sure that if you watch all the videos and read the bios that you will change your view.i've put some work into this so please respond and tell me what you think after you check everything out.i hope i have restored your hope in marvel and that you see like i do that dc would lose including superman.

[wolverinefan]

Ive read em bro..marvel is superhuman when it comes to marvel but to DC they are inferior. Marvel is indeed trying to boost power levels and in actualilty I hope they don't. To me that is what makes makes Marvel well Marvel..The heroes are extremely powerful and yeah a few might go a turn or two with some DC heavyweights but Hulk has been brought down by shield and the army...Thor was bested twice by Beta Ray Bill and other then Silver Surfer or Doctor Strange those are are the only ones I see giving DC a decent fight. I mean sure because its a COMIC they'd have She-Hulk land a few blows on Wonder Woman but strength for Strength WW would kill her. I think Darkseid is almost on the level of Galactus and that is what it takes to give Superman a decent fight. Can u see Hulk ANY version going toe to toe with GALACTUS??

[steve]

look at your old roleplaying game under beta ray bill.beta ray bill is stronger than thor.whil i will agree that wonder woman would beat she hulk i strongly disagree that galactus and darkseid are on the same level.i've read the comic and a weakened galactus got knocked down by some oversized parts of apokolips.he still beat darkseid and his army and his automans and aside from him getting knocked down once,the fight was all galactus.further more in secret wars{with a much weaker hulk}hulk took a full blast from galactus.not saying he would win against him but he took the shot from galactus and so did darkseid.it had about as much effect on one then as the other.doctor strange has wielded enough energy to destoy galaxies and the surfer can control energy and gravity on a massive scale.oh wait,thats another thing.superman had some of his powers explained by the gravity being much stronger in kryton then earth and surfer can control gravity,hmmm