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Post by steve on Jul 21, 2012 19:14:23 GMT -5
in forums we don't decide who wins based on what company says what.we base it on powers as if they were actually real and fighting.this is important because as everyone already knows dc will never let supes lose to a marvel character.with all that said let me give you all the many reasons surfer beats superman. 1-becoming intangible,silver surfer has shown he is capable of this and i will post scans of everything I write when I can but becoming intangible means he can't be harmed by physical attacks. 2-energy absorption-while superman was capable of absorbing the mageddon star{in impressive feat}surfer was able to absorb the energy from the crunch to defeat aegis and tenebrous and even the he was dying from it{he was already dying from him getting beaton to near death by two beings on par with galactus}he was still able to absorb and use that energy. 3-seeing light years away-surfer shows he is capable of seeing light years away and he seen thanos from a light year away.this means supes will be seen way before he can even get to surfer. 4-cosmic awareness-surfer has shown multiple times he has cosmic awareness and has even threatened to blast gladiator with radiation as well as pick up locations in the universe that are even out of surfers line of sight.this gives him an edge due to superman beeing weak to red sunlight. 5-creating black holes-surfer has shown he is capable of creating black holes and that would surely destroy the sun{supes power source}also,nova has destroyed the sun before and surfer told her to do it as if any herald would be able to do such a feat. i will post scans of everything when im not at work so maybe in a week.this will show what all im talking about
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Post by steve on Jul 21, 2012 19:56:33 GMT -5
surfer can transmute matter or shrink him,he can change supes eyes into black holes,he can drain him of his energy,change the energy inside supes to red sun energy,their are so many ways in which surfer beats supes i can't even begin to name them all.
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Post by steve on Jul 21, 2012 23:58:49 GMT -5
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Post by steve on Jul 22, 2012 9:10:01 GMT -5
Often referred to as the "Crunch", this is the constantly expanding edge of the positive-matter universe. It is the location of the Kyln "Moons" - massive, interconnected spheres which serve as a power source for over 200 planetary systems AND a maximum security prison.
At the edge of our positive-matter universe exists an energy source of unimaginable power. This edge is ever expanding, slowly encroaching on the Negative Zone universe.
Antiphon's Final Resting PlaceA freed Galactus (since Annihilation Day, Plus 220) assigned the Silver Surfer (freed on the same day) the task to locate Aegis and Tanerbrous. It didn't take him long to find the duo, at the Crunch, searching through the Kyln debris for ancient allies. After signaling for Galactus, Silver Surfer decided to distract the two cosmic powerhouses until his arrival. Before long, Silver Surfer was completely overwhelmed, but decided to do what it took to keep Galactus' greatest foes at bay.
Aegis and Tanerbrous consumed by the CrunchIn a final effort, knowing that it would likely kill him, he charged into the Crunch, surfing on its surface, disrupting it enough to spill off onto Aegis and Tenebrous. As Galactus arrived at the Crunch, he witnessed the inconceivable -- a lowly herald took down a pair of Proemial Gods -- Galactus was avenged. After being the location of their captivity for countless millenia -- since the creation event and their capture by Galactus; the Crunch became the final resting place for Aegis and Tenebrous as it continues to expand into the Negative Zone.
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Post by steve on Jul 22, 2012 9:29:46 GMT -5
The Surfer can search the globe before someone can finish a sentence, just because he usually limits his speed to march 10 in an atmosphere, does not mean he can well exceede that Not travel, actually search the globe. Telepathy, speed, nano second response time, matter manipulation, the ability to suck the metablized solar energy right out of supes, intangable!, his super vision owns supes, and I am pretty sure his cosmic blasts> anything comming out of supes eyes(Which he can just absorb anyways). Surfer stomps, travels back in time, stomps again.
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Post by steve on Jul 22, 2012 10:01:23 GMT -5
to wolverinefan,look if you don't believe surfer beats superman thats fine.its your opinion but do me a favor,google surfer vs superman and see what everyone else thinks.see all the different posts of the two then decide and get back with me.let me know what ya think
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Post by steve on Jul 22, 2012 14:16:49 GMT -5
if you googled it and seen how everyone else views the match,you most likely have heard how superman has a better reaction time,{from superman fanboys}fact is they both think in nano seconds.also the one example i seen of superman thinking in nano seconds,he was flying really fast,meaning time slows down,while the surfer was trapped and standing still thinking in nano seconds.
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Post by steve on Jul 22, 2012 14:40:13 GMT -5
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Post by steve on Jul 22, 2012 14:49:24 GMT -5
this is from yahoo answers and not my own Best Answer - Chosen by Asker Silver Surfer would beat Superman, for reasons that can't be argued. Silver Surfer's powers consist absorbing and manipulating the universe's ambient cosmic energies, and he can analyze and manipulate matter and energy. so here's some ways Surfer can beat Superman.
#1. Since Superman gets his powers from our sun's radiation (a yellow star) Silver Surfer can literally drain Superman of the radiation neutralizing his powers (he once did this to Hulk, turning him back to Bruce Banner). and then Surfer can just go over there and knock him out, because Supes would be as weak as us.
#2. Surfer can just use his matter manipulating powers to create the type of Kryptonite, that will make Superman weak and even kill him.
#3.if they're near a yellow star much like our sun, Surfer can just turn the yellow star radiation into red star radiation which will again neutralize Supes of his powers.
#4. honestly Silver Surfer himself could just emit red star radiation.
if you question whether Silver Surfer would be smart enough to do all this well, maybe not the kryptonite thing (#2) but certainly the rest. Silver Surfer has cosmic awareness which would indicate to him that Superman gets his powers from yellow star radiation (or our sun)
@speculat... that was just crap from a movie, Silver Surfer uses his board to travel across the universe at speeds well over light speed, it's not necessary for him to have it if he's not gonna be traveling, but he will still have his powers.
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Post by steve on Jul 22, 2012 15:03:41 GMT -5
I believe i said {on one of these posts}that all the heralds of galactus could beat the justice league.if you go to my first link on this post,you should see a pic of nova destroying a star.stars are much bigger then planets and nova is generally considered to be on of his weakest heralds. List of Heralds in Earth 616 ¡Fallen One (MIA) ¡Silver Surfer ¡Gabriel the Air-Walker (Deceased) ¡Firelord ¡Destroyer (MIA) ¡Terrax the Tamer ¡Nova (Deceased) ¡Morg the Executioner (Deceased) ¡Red Shift (Deceased) ¡Johnny Storm ¡Stardust (MIA?) ¡Praeter (Current Herald) if all the heralds were alive,I really see them beating the snot out of the justice league.
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Post by steve on Jul 25, 2012 14:48:51 GMT -5
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Post by steve on Jul 27, 2012 15:12:30 GMT -5
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Post by wolverinefan on Aug 2, 2012 19:28:51 GMT -5
You keep going to youtube steve and all these other sites and that's fine but I have the comics themselves. I know marvel front and back and I love em but I also realize that DC and Marvel arent the same universes and everyone who wants to compare them needs to realize the disparity in them. DC is by design more powerful then Marvel..Its just a fact. As far as the heralds go they are indeed powerful and would be a fight for anyone but With Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern I cant see this fight ending well for Galactus' Heralds
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Post by wolverinefan on Aug 2, 2012 19:31:45 GMT -5
In the Avengers vs JLA crossover..The JLA beat Terminus who is a Cosmic powered being nearly on Galactus level in a matter of seconds.
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Post by steve on Aug 3, 2012 15:36:23 GMT -5
as far as terminus,thats called PIS or plot induced stupidity.it happens a lot in crossovers.if you read everything,than you should know you are in the 5 percent that feel surfer loses to supes.surfer is superior in just about every way.even supes writers said they didn't want to put clark in that situation when asked wht surfer and supes didn't fight in their crossover.that also proves my point yet again.that if dc isn't winning,their not doing it.martian manhunter is weak against fire so firelord{he's basically a small star}would put him down.say what you want about supes vs surfer the fact is if you have done your research and read all the threads you know how much of a mismatch it is.the very fact that surfer and supes are in a comic together and yet don't fight should help you see supes would fall just like i said forever ago.google it or look at the feats between the two in vs scans.supes is out matched.thats two out of your four mentioned that would be taken down in one on one matches with the heralds.as usual i have to disagree.i would post scans to show why i feel this way but this site won't let me post pics
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